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Posted by: tempe
« on: 20. March 2009., 01:04:31 »

why go through the hassle of loading all the javascript on the website anyway. sometime you just wanna read the important stuff. not that those fancy flash ad that has nothing to do with your main purpose of browsing.

try to use firefox with no script addons. you will have the convenient of safety browsing and the browser will prevent any activex, objects, script, even flash to show unless you authorise them.

and duh... when you visit hazardous website which has tendency to silently install a trojan, which browser that prone to be the victim...??
Posted by: Samker
« on: 15. March 2009., 17:36:48 »

I read that chrome 2 is the fastest till now; especially in java rendering,,I guess Opera comes in the second or third place, but firefox is the one for me. of course I tried Opera before, its a good browser but having a lot of plugins and add-ons for the firefox is a huge positive ! :)
and one more thing, Microsoft can say whatever it wants, I think its giving up the browser marker slowly, what do you think ? I guess the only reason IE is still dominant on the Browser market is because its integrated with windows, the Dominant OS !


Yes you got a right Chrome is also very fast, but when I was compare this two browser (Chrome first version) most sites Opera was "open" faster. Still don't know for Chrome 2...

Also I agree with you that Microsoft will continue to lose market share but don't think that they will stop producing browsers. But who know...??


Posted by: duomaxwell22
« on: 15. March 2009., 15:54:42 »

Yes i have tried this IE8 and it is really faster than my current IE7 and Firefox3, not yet tried Opera and Chrome thou..

i wonder how they have improved it, since phishing filter are still included..
anyways, i still stick with IE7.. i feel contented with it..

Im just waiting for the Official Release of this IE8 since it is still a Release Candidate Version. (RC1 Latest Version)
Posted by: haz
« on: 15. March 2009., 13:38:27 »

I read that chrome 2 is the fastest till now; especially in java rendering,,I guess Opera comes in the second or third place, but firefox is the one for me. of course I tried Opera before, its a good browser but having a lot of plugins and add-ons for the firefox is a huge positive ! :)
and one more thing, Microsoft can say whatever it wants, I think its giving up the browser marker slowly, what do you think ? I guess the only reason IE is still dominant on the Browser market is because its integrated with windows, the Dominant OS !
Posted by: F3RL
« on: 15. March 2009., 00:19:56 »

  1. If you wasn't try OPERA till now, this is my first suggestion for you.[/b]

Well, I will give it a try, since what I heard about Opera seems 'positive'.
and yes, tab feature is missing from IE6, it would be nice with tabs.
Posted by: Samker
« on: 14. March 2009., 23:23:59 »

IE6 is good version, but right now I can't think about any browser without Tabs. As I remember IE6 don't have tabs?

Anyway, I'm 99,9% sure that OPERA is browser No1. if we talk about speed.


If you wasn't try OPERA till now, this is my first suggestion for you.



Second is to Log in to SCF and increase your post number.  ;)

Posted by: F3RLs
« on: 14. March 2009., 23:14:36 »

Personally, I dont see a huge improvement of IE8 compared to IE7.
Maybe because my computer is old and my bandwidth is less than you would expect, 12Kb/s avg.
Last night I've formatted the hard drive - Weekly clean up. I prefer using IE6 with all security patch even though it's not secure enough, it's faster than any other web browsers for my computer and feels light.
It uses 34 RAM with two separate windows opened. Well, that's my personal point of view.

That's how I feel about IE8, as you said, they improved JavaScript performance but I still prefer using IE6.
Does anyone still uses IE6?
Posted by: Samker
« on: 14. March 2009., 22:59:54 »



Microsoft Corp. says that its own speed tests prove Internet Explorer 8 (IE8) is faster than either Firefox or Chrome.

In a report released last week, Microsoft spelled out how it tests browsers in-house, and again stressed that it doesn't buy the idea that benchmarks -- such as those that score JavaScript performance -- accurately compare the players.

"These benchmarks necessarily characterize only a narrow set of the browser functions in a very constrained way," Microsoft's report said. "End users, however, do not operate in a controlled environment."

Microsoft's tests pitted IE8 Release Candidate 1 (RC1), which launched in late January, against Google Inc.'s Chrome 1.0 and Mozilla Corp.'s Firefox 3.0.5, a version from mid-December. The company timed how long it took each browser to completely render the 25 most-popular destinations on the Web, as ranked by the Web metrics firm comScore Inc., which included google.com, facebook.com, amazon.com, and others.

IE8 was fastest in rendering 12 of the 25 sites, said Microsoft, while Chrome took second by beating the others on nine sites. Firefox, meanwhile, was a distant third, coming in first on just four of the 25 domains.

Microsoft did not test other browsers, such as Apple Inc.'s Safari or Opera Software ASA's Opera, said James Pratt, a senior product manager on the IE development team, because it wanted to focus on rivals that "had a good share on the Windows platform."

Both Opera and Safari for Windows have shares of less than 1%, according to the most recent data from Net Applications Inc., with the former, on all platforms, accounting for 0.7% and the latter just 0.3%.

Nor did Microsoft put IE8 in the ring with later versions of Chrome and Firefox. Chrome, for instance, is currently at 2.0.169.1 as a developer-only build, while Firefox just rolled out 3.1 Beta 2. Both browsers boast better performance, specifically faster JavaScript rendering. "IE8 RC1 is a release candidate, and was very close to being done," explained Pratt when asked why newer versions of Chrome and Firefox had not been used. "But Google and Mozilla were still actively working on [those newer browsers], and they weren't super stable."

JavaScript benchmarks have become a point of dispute between Microsoft and its rivals. While Mozilla, Google, Apple and Opera have all updated their JavaScript engines in the last eight months, and have then trumpeted scores in JavaScript test suites like SunSpider, Microsoft executives have dismissed the bragging as so much noise.

Dean Hachamovitch, IE's general manager, has called claims of competitors a "drag race" that Microsoft isn't interested in joining, while Pratt has downplayed comparisons of any kind. "We're at the point, with what people do in the browser, that users can't really tell the difference between browser [performance]," he said in a January interview.

Pratt said that the just-released report backed that up. "As you can see from the scores, the differences between the browsers are actually very small," he said.

When Computerworld last tested the major browsers' JavaScript performance, immediately after the release of the public beta of Safari 4, IE8 ranked last.

Although Google did not respond to a request for comment on Microsoft's benchmarks, Mozilla's Mike Shaver, who heads all development at the company, applauded any attempt to boost IE's performance. "I don't think anyone here has had a chance to really look at their methodology yet or tried to reproduce their results, but to whatever extent Microsoft is working to improve the performance of IE it's a good thing for the Web," said Shaver in an e-mail late Thursday.

Microsoft's browser performance report can be downloaded from the company's Web site: http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?displaylang=en&FamilyID=cd8932f3-b4be-4e0e-a73b-4a373d85146d#filelist

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