Members
  • Total Members: 14176
  • Latest: toxxxa
Stats
  • Total Posts: 42869
  • Total Topics: 16078
  • Online Today: 3827
  • Online Ever: 51419
  • (01. January 2010., 10:27:49)









Author Topic: How to give internet friends access to hyper-v clients on windows server 2012?  (Read 23564 times)

0 Members and 2 Guests are viewing this topic.

devnullius

  • SCF VIP Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3614
  • KARMA: 157
  • Gender: Female
    • SCForum.info
Ok... I'm in a typical home setup... To give external IP I need to bridge my ISP router to my server directly... Isn't something I'd love to do (security + RL home setup makes that a pain... Router & Server are at opposite sites of my home).

Current setup:

* --cable--> ISP Router (Bridged) --cable--> Wifi Router (LAN with external IP by bridged router) --cable--> Server NIC 2
                                                                                                                                                         ----------> Server NIC 1
                                                                                                                                                         --cable--> PC1
                                                                                                                                                         --cable--> Cisco Switch
                                                                                                                                                                           --cable--> PC2
                                                                                                                                                                           --cable--> Printer

So... If I set LAN of the Wifi Router in 192.168 (and Server NIC2 too) I could set Server NIC1 on 10.x.y.z network? I would put my PC1, PC2, Printer & Wifi network all in 10.x.y.z., making Server NIC2 the only device in 192.168.

I would have to make port forwards on LAN Wifi Router then?? For incoming friends requests (VPN). I would need a different VPN port for each Hyper-V virtual machine?? And so each Hyper-V client MUST also be in the 192.168 network?? Because I want my Virtual Machines in the 10-network (file sharing, stuff like that). Or should I leave the 10-network out of it and am I just not getting it, again? :)

Devvie
More information about bitcoin, altcoin & crypto in general? GO TO  j.gs/7385484/btc

Cuisvis hominis est errare, nullius nisi insipientis in errore persevare... So why not get the real SCForum employees to help YOUR troubled computer!!! SCF Remote PC Assist http://goo.gl/n1ONa9

Samker's Computer Forum - SCforum.info


metalmunna

  • SCF Moderators
  • *****
  • Posts: 131
  • KARMA: 20
  • Gender: Male
    • my heart bleeds for none but my own!
Ok... I'm in a typical home setup... To give external IP I need to bridge my ISP router to my server directly... Isn't something I'd love to do (security + RL home setup makes that a pain... Router & Server are at opposite sites of my home).

Current setup:

* --cable--> ISP Router (Bridged) --cable--> Wifi Router (LAN with external IP by bridged router) --cable--> Server NIC 2
                                                                                                                                                         ----------> Server NIC 1
                                                                                                                                                         --cable--> PC1
                                                                                                                                                         --cable--> Cisco Switch
                                                                                                                                                                           --cable--> PC2
                                                                                                                                                                           --cable--> Printer

So... If I set LAN of the Wifi Router in 192.168 (and Server NIC2 too) I could set Server NIC1 on 10.x.y.z network? I would put my PC1, PC2, Printer & Wifi network all in 10.x.y.z., making Server NIC2 the only device in 192.168.

I would have to make port forwards on LAN Wifi Router then?? For incoming friends requests (VPN). I would need a different VPN port for each Hyper-V virtual machine?? And so each Hyper-V client MUST also be in the 192.168 network?? Because I want my Virtual Machines in the 10-network (file sharing, stuff like that). Or should I leave the 10-network out of it and am I just not getting it, again? :)

Devvie

it's(10.x.y.z) not needed if you have a LAN card with a private IP(192.168 network), but to setup VPN server you will need another LAN card which will have a public/real IP. port forwarding will make complicated the simple setup. just get a public/real IP and set it on the 2nd LAN card which will be the gateway for the VPN server. I mean put the direct WAN(Internet) connection on the 2nd LAN card which will have the public/real IP.


For your Virtual machine needs nothing to do, when your client will connect by VPN those time they will get access the local network as local user. simply no change needed anywhere any more .. just need a VPN server for external(internet) user to get access your local network on secured way.

MetalMunnA
https://www.halfrain.com
https://www.coreyz.com
I just sit and wonder, why!! Everything i touch it dies!!!

jheysen

  • SCF Global Moderator
  • *****
  • Posts: 879
  • KARMA: 121
  • Gender: Male
As I see things, giving the server direct access to the WAN and thus converting it in a gateway isn't possible due to physical limitations. I would go for the different external ports in port forwarding scheme. (Or maybe you can see something like X11-sesman, so they all get to the same terminal, they log in, and the terminal internally transfers them to the correct client)

metalmunna

  • SCF Moderators
  • *****
  • Posts: 131
  • KARMA: 20
  • Gender: Male
    • my heart bleeds for none but my own!
As I see things, giving the server direct access to the WAN and thus converting it in a gateway isn't possible due to physical limitations. I would go for the different external ports in port forwarding scheme. (Or maybe you can see something like X11-sesman, so they all get to the same terminal, they log in, and the terminal internally transfers them to the correct client)

yes; can do by port forwarding too but as i said it will make a lot of trouble on real world and needs extra configuration.
then more easy way, if the router have VPN server features, configure the router(as talked before about RRAS, i thought there was no router, as said about VPS) as VPN server, it's more easy way to solve the issue. you just need your external clients to give access the local network which will be secured ..

MetalMunnA
https://www.halfrain.com
https://www.coreyz.com
I just sit and wonder, why!! Everything i touch it dies!!!

devnullius

  • SCF VIP Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3614
  • KARMA: 157
  • Gender: Female
    • SCForum.info
Sigh... "easy" :(

It's not impossible to put my Server directly to WAN, but I don't like it.

So it must be done the complicated way... Preferable where all LAN clients (physical or virtual) can see each other.

Anyone willing to guide me through it with teamviewer or something? If it's that easy... Show me where what and I'll probably figure this shit out. For now, I'm more clueless than I thought I was :)

Devvie
More information about bitcoin, altcoin & crypto in general? GO TO  j.gs/7385484/btc

Cuisvis hominis est errare, nullius nisi insipientis in errore persevare... So why not get the real SCForum employees to help YOUR troubled computer!!! SCF Remote PC Assist http://goo.gl/n1ONa9

Samker's Computer Forum - SCforum.info


metalmunna

  • SCF Moderators
  • *****
  • Posts: 131
  • KARMA: 20
  • Gender: Male
    • my heart bleeds for none but my own!
Sigh... "easy" :(

It's not impossible to put my Server directly to WAN, but I don't like it.

So it must be done the complicated way... Preferable where all LAN clients (physical or virtual) can see each other.

Anyone willing to guide me through it with teamviewer or something? If it's that easy... Show me where what and I'll probably figure this shit out. For now, I'm more clueless than I thought I was :)

Devvie

team viewer will not give you the power and smoothness of remote desktop/terminal server! VPN is the best choice. is the VPN server feature available on your router? even on router too you must have a public/real IP for VPN. otherwise, go on 3rd party as kids do on PC for share the desktop and use team viewer! but nothing of the world can give you the power and smoothness as native remote desktop/terminal server.
by team viewer, you can do it easily by setting a fix id and password but you have to do that on all Virtual Machine and inform that all of your VM users. and to use team viewer on server you might need to buy team viewer license, can't use free personal version. but not sure!! you can try and check.

MetalMunnA
https://www.halfrain.com
https://www.coreyz.com
I just sit and wonder, why!! Everything i touch it dies!!!

jheysen

  • SCF Global Moderator
  • *****
  • Posts: 879
  • KARMA: 121
  • Gender: Male
She says using Team Viewer to help her configure the server and everything
What's your Time Zone devvie? I'm on GMT -4:00 I believe (Sometimes we go into GMT -3:00 Here)

metalmunna

  • SCF Moderators
  • *****
  • Posts: 131
  • KARMA: 20
  • Gender: Male
    • my heart bleeds for none but my own!
She says using Team Viewer to help her configure the server and everything
What's your Time Zone devvie? I'm on GMT -4:00 I believe (Sometimes we go into GMT -3:00 Here)

sorry for the misunderstanding. my timezone is +6:00(available from: 10PM to 8AM whole night to morning of my side) but i am available on timezone -5:00 from 9AM to 7PM. i have no problem to help her. but be sure that a public/real IP is must and if wanted to do that by RRAS that will be better for me and should done with in 15 to 30 mins. if everything is ready i can do after a while too! will go for breakfast now.

MetalMunnA
https://www.halfrain.com
https://www.coreyz.com
I just sit and wonder, why!! Everything i touch it dies!!!

devnullius

  • SCF VIP Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3614
  • KARMA: 157
  • Gender: Female
    • SCForum.info
Now almost 3 in the morning here (http://www.timezoneconverter.com/cgi-bin/zoneinfo?tz=Europe/Amsterdam)

I can prepare stuff, no problem. I know my way around when needed :)

But I want to do it the complicated way, meaning I won't expose my server to the WAN. Just too naked, not in a good way I might add (yes jheysen, I got your PM ;) ).

If "router configuration" is just a matter of setting up ports, it won't take more than 5 minutes... No fancy hardware, just SoHo stuff ;p

I guess 2 server NICs should be wired to my SoHo Wifi Router? Keep them both on DHCP?

Server Roles are already installed and I did not mess with them yet. What else can I prepare?

I will now look in detail to previous posts...

Thanks!!

Devvie
More information about bitcoin, altcoin & crypto in general? GO TO  j.gs/7385484/btc

Cuisvis hominis est errare, nullius nisi insipientis in errore persevare... So why not get the real SCForum employees to help YOUR troubled computer!!! SCF Remote PC Assist http://goo.gl/n1ONa9

metalmunna

  • SCF Moderators
  • *****
  • Posts: 131
  • KARMA: 20
  • Gender: Male
    • my heart bleeds for none but my own!
Now almost 3 in the morning here (http://www.timezoneconverter.com/cgi-bin/zoneinfo?tz=Europe/Amsterdam)

I can prepare stuff, no problem. I know my way around when needed :)

But I want to do it the complicated way, meaning I won't expose my server to the WAN. Just too naked, not in a good way I might add (yes jheysen, I got your PM ;) ).

If "router configuration" is just a matter of setting up ports, it won't take more than 5 minutes... No fancy hardware, just SoHo stuff ;p

I guess 2 server NICs should be wired to my SoHo Wifi Router? Keep them both on DHCP?

Server Roles are already installed and I did not mess with them yet. What else can I prepare?

I will now look in detail to previous posts...

Thanks!!

Devvie

if you want to do on router then there is no need of RRAS but be sure that your router have feature to be a VPN server(VPN client option have almost all routers but without big router you might not have the VPN server option). if wanted to do by RRAS then need a public/real IP on the LAN card, at first build the setup and then it can be mask to not open to the external world. i mean make the thing simple way at first and then it's easy to make complicated. when you saw the basic setup and how to done and then you can make it your way, do you understand? now walking for breakfast ...

MetalMunnA
https://www.halfrain.com
https://www.coreyz.com
I just sit and wonder, why!! Everything i touch it dies!!!

Samker's Computer Forum - SCforum.info


 

With Quick-Reply you can write a post when viewing a topic without loading a new page. You can still use bulletin board code and smileys as you would in a normal post.

Name: Email:
Verification:
Type the letters shown in the picture
Listen to the letters / Request another image
Type the letters shown in the picture:
Second Anti-Bot trap, type or simply copy-paste below (only the red letters):www.scforum.info:

Enter your email address to receive daily email with 'SCforum.info - Samker's Computer Forum' newest content:

Terms of Use | Privacy Policy | Advertising