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Posted by: devnullius
« on: 16. May 2014., 21:17:49 »

btc-robot scam continued: http://www.ripoffreport.com/r/BTC-Robot/internet/BTC-Robot-BTC-Robot-Steals-My-Bitcoin-Profit-Potential-Internet-1104934

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Submitted: Fri, December 06, 2013
Reported By: Victor — Topeka Kansas
BTC Robot
Web: http://btcrobot.com/

BTC Robot BTC Robot Steals My Bitcoin Profit Potential Internet

SEO Reputation Management at its best!

The BTC Robot is a scam. I bought 10 bitcoins when the price was $140 a coin. I used the robot and it brought my bitcoin number down to 2.774 as it made more losing trades than winning trades. I turned it off when I realized what was happening. Despite of this I didn't lose money as the bitcoin price kept rising. If I had simply held my coins and not traded with this stupid robot I would now have almost $10,000 in my account instead of the $2200 that I now have.

When you read the testimonials you can see that if they would have done the math they would have seen what I did and realized how they were tricked, but because they still have more in their account than they initially invested they think the robot is working in their favor.

On the positive side however they did get me into the bitcoin market which I do not regret and they did refund the robot purchase price.

What I learned from this is: bitcoins are very profitable, but the BTC Robot trading software is for fools who can't do basic math.
Posted by: devnullius
« on: 04. May 2014., 14:35:15 »

FROM: http://cryptomining-blog.com/tag/btc-arbs-review/

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BTC Arbs Bitcoin Arbitrage And Other Ponzi Schemes

8, mar 2014

btc-arbs-bitcoin-ponzi-scheme

We have been asked by a reader about our opinion and to to check out a website called BTC Arbs that supposedly offers daily returns of invested money or Bitcoins of 0.1% to 10%. What the website claims to do in order to provide so high daily returns on invested money or BTC is arbitrage of Bitcoins between different exchanges. The website seems to be well designed and looks very convincing in terms of information available on it. The minimum investment is $50 or 0.05 Bitcoins and the site accepts direct Bitcoin transfers as well as money deposits from investors with no maximum investment amount. The website even has a Results page a daily return rate on your investment, so everything seems really legit, especially if you do not look into things in detail and are captured by the high profit you are promised. The problem however is that the website is most likely just a scam and another well made Ponzi Scheme that is there to make some quick money at users’ expense!
What should raise a warning in this websites and other sites at first is the very high return rate or the so called high-yield investment program (HYIP) that you are being promised on a daily basis, this is the most common thing for Ponzi Schemes that attracts user’s attention and fuels their greed a lot. Up to 10 percent per day means you can get rich very fast for doing nothing, yeah, right… in reality just the opposite. The next thing you should look into is who is behind the website, and the only thing about that you can find on the website is that it is based in Switzerland, however there is not info about the company or address or event at least mail or phone to contact them on the Contact page. Furthermore the website claims to be created in November of 2013, but a quick whois returns different data – Creation Date: 2014-01-04 20:13:00, anonymous registration and hosted in a web server in Malaysia. It all seems less an less legit and clearly the website claims things that are far from true…
You can see that some people have already tested the BTC Arbs service and report making some money already on top of their investment and withdrawing their earnings successfully. This is a normal way of operation – the first “investors” in a Ponzi Scheme do get paid in order to convince them that everything is working as promised and to encourage them to invest more and more into the service and to bring other people too. In reality however the “earnings” the earlier “investors” are getting do come from money that new users brought to the service are investing into it. And as soon as the authors of the Ponzi Scheme decide to get away with the all the money everything will fall down and some people will actually loose money. But even in this scenario if you are one of the “early investors” and use the service for just a few days with small amount of Bitcoins (never invest real cash into such Ponzi Schemes!!!) you might actually end up making some cash. Never, never and NEVER invest long term in a Ponzi Scheme or HYIP website, but what is even better thing to do is to stay away from such websites! We would not recommend to use services such as this one, even if there is some small chance to actually profit from using them, because this will be at the expense of somebody else just like you!
In short – if something looks too good to be true, then it probably is and you should be wise and best avoid it.
High-yield investment program (HYIP)
A high-yield investment program (HYIP) is a type of Ponzi scheme, an investment scam that promises unsustainably high return on investment by paying previous investors with the money invested by new investors. Most of these scams work from anonymous offshore bases which make them hard to track down. Operators generally set up a website offering an “investment program” which promises very high returns, such as 1% per day or even more, disclosing little or no detail about the underlying management, location, or other aspects of how money is to be invested. Or giving you a nice story about the whole thing such as BTC arbitrage, that may sound believable to newbies or people that are generally not very experienced and haven’t suffered yet from such a fraudulent scheme.
Ponzi scheme
A Ponzi scheme is a fraudulent investment operation that pays returns to its investors from existing capital or new capital paid by new investors, rather than from profit earned by the individual or organization running the operation. Operators of Ponzi schemes usually entice new investors by offering higher returns than other investments, in the form of short-term returns that are either abnormally high or unusually consistent. The perpetuation of the high returns requires an ever-increasing flow of money from new investors to sustain the scheme. The scheme is named after Charles Ponzi, who became notorious for using the technique in 1920, even though he did not invent the scheme, but his operation took in so much money that it was the first to become known throughout the United States. Ponzi’s original scheme was based on the arbitrage of international reply coupons for postage stamps; however, he soon diverted investors’ money to make payments to earlier investors and himself.
Other similar websites to be careful with:
- Bitcoin Trader
- My Daily Coin
- Cryptory
- Fin Mutual
- Bitco Financial
- Laxo Trade
- Rockwel Partners
- Hex Fund
The above list contains a few more websites that do rise some concerns as well, though we are not saying that they are all scams for sure, still we recommend to be careful should you decide to try them out. If you still want to try them out do so with the minimum investment amount and do not be in a hurry to invest a lot of coins! Do note that usually if somebody promises you a 2-5-10% or more daily return of investment or even more you should really be careful and that applies not only to crypto currencies.


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Posted by: devnullius
« on: 24. January 2014., 01:26:52 »

Hello,

Preparing a more elaborate review of BTC Robot, I can tell you already it truly is a scam.

I bought it (and awaiting refund) and am lucky I did not lose too much money.

In anticipation of the real article, here the trade logs for future reference. Login and creating screenshots of BTC-Robot is impossible: my account was locked out due to "server maintenance". Yeah right, immediately followed by another newsletter ;p

BTC-E.com logs:
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16.01.14 15:35 Your order #124105990 (sell 0.01058369 BTC @ 832.738) filled completely.
14.01.14 23:51 Your order #122854406 (sell 0.01088455 BTC @ 825) filled completely.
14.01.14 19:10 Your order #122694829 (buy 0.0109356 BTC @ 818) filled completely.
14.01.14 16:49 Your order #122608995 (sell 0.01090241 BTC @ 816) filled completely.
14.01.14 14:40 Your order #122525343 (buy 0.0104375 BTC @ 825.124) filled completely.
14.01.14 03:41 Your order #122122435 (buy 0.00877915 BTC @ 824.947) filled completely.
14.01.14 02:54 Your order #122082925 (sell 0.01450289 BTC @ 833) filled completely.
14.01.14 00:56 Your order #121970832 (sell 0.01156233 BTC @ 813.539) filled completely.
13.01.14 08:09 Your order #121249338 (sell 0.01553663 BTC @ 825) filled completely.
12.01.14 20:30 Your deposit 0.25 BTC successfully credited.

This algorithm makes NO sense, except if somebody actually is skimming in the middle.

When I started markets were going down, just about ready for a huge spike.

Just before / just when the rise began... I got an email that logging in currently was disabled. Fuck, just when I was going to make some money of this scam! :(

Could also be they just were fed up with my nagging and complaining... Or my refund requests... Still, I should have had a working account but I did not. I think they were covering their losses.

Fuck them.

I knew better; I just had to see for myself  >:D

devnullius
Posted by: devnullius
« on: 17. January 2014., 13:39:03 »

Quote from: SUEhoward on 17. January 2014., 12:44:26
Honestly, bots looks like a scam to me. Those are bogus advertisements, perhaps. How To Make Millions of $$$ or Generate Bitcoin like Faucet are taglines screaming scam. Beware guys; you could be a victim of bitcoin trading bots.

You're probably right :)

Though C.A.T. is a true, legit tool. Which can help you greatly while trading.
Posted by: SUEhoward
« on: 17. January 2014., 12:44:26 »

Honestly, bots looks like a scam to me. Those are bogus advertisements, perhaps. How To Make Millions of $$$ or Generate Bitcoin like Faucet are taglines screaming scam. Beware guys; you could be a victim of bitcoin trading bots.
Posted by: devnullius
« on: 11. January 2014., 16:25:31 »

As you might know, I bought C.A.T. for automated trading on cryptsy.com. I'm still learning (http://scforum.info/index.php/topic,8566.msg22139.html#msg22139) - stock is hard ;p

While looking at some math, I also found the following programs / services for auto-trading:
- C.A.T. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=329168.0
- https://butter-bot.com/#products_table
- http://www.btcrobot.com/
Confirmed *SCAM*! Do NOT buy BTC Robot!! See: http://scforum.info/index.php/topic,8636.msg22669.html
Press Release: http://www.botbtc.com/)
End Users: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=268533.0
- http://www.haasonline.com/simple-trade-bot-general/
- https://bitcoin-bot.com/pricing
(found here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=177867.msg1852408#msg1852408)
- http://www.btctrader.ru/
- http://fapturbo2.com/

Anyone any experiences? Other programs I did not find (yet)?

BE WARNED - SOME MIGHT BE SCAMMERS!

I hope C.A.T. will make them coins fast now, for I wanna buy me some goodies :>

devnullius

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