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The crypto world is full of harsh and cynical people - including me. You may thank the many many IPO scams out there... And I'm not only talking about the obvious grab-and-run scams. There are many subtle ones too! Like Moolah with "oh so sorry, we got hacked" or "my partner stole and ran off" or "due to circumstances I see no way forward but to stop supporting the coin" and many many more schemes, often passing by unnoticed.

So I will start the ICO analysis with some firm critiques (questions) I could actually agree with but sadly was met with harsh words by the developers. More on why that is later. First, let's start with the FUD  :angel:


From cryptolemaik in the BCT [ANN]...
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What work is done on your game besides selecting an engine? Let me guess: none.

If you think you can dev an MMOFPS/RPG game in 6 months, even on an existing framework, you're -fucking insane. Public Beta in May means you should already have an internal version that is playable. Unless of course you have a team of 30 experienced game devs coming on board next month.

This is so obviously over-stating what is even possible.

Let's see a video of your current build, any assets, ANYTHING, and yes I would invest a substantial sum. You're claiming a public beta in 6 months basically right in your ANN. Let's see what's done so far. It would be substantial with 6 months to go. MMOs do not get made in 6 months.

Photos and names don't mean shit, we've seen this before in other shitcoin cashgrabs. Let's see something real. You've made bold claims on that roadmap, back them up. I'm sure you've seen plenty of crowdfunded games, they show actual content and competency. What games has your team worked on before?

Why does your team believe they can accomplish such a level of development from the ground level in 6-8 months? What previous experience and expertise are they relying on to make such projections?

While these harsh questions are, to me, very legit ones (I was asking myself the same questions!), the Element-team took these accusations really personal. They are working so hard, surely everybody can see that? And besides, they have no intention to scam anyone: weren't they open to the max about the identify of the team??

This all played before I met the team. By then, they too felt they might have underestimated the amount of disappointed altcoin lovers. And they are willing to do more besides openly giving their names and an address. For example, they released this video http://youtu.be/HK3tPxQO7oc which basicly is a short overview of things needed to make this happening. No hyping, no smoke. Just a rational summary of why the ICO is needed and what will be done with it.

Also, Element Coin is extremely eager to answer all my questions: answers always followed fast even when it's in the middle of the night, they were there. Despite having a family life too :)

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Our office equipment? We have an office with 6 computers suited for C++ programmers. As you may know, C++ is used for the coin and also for the game. We have everything we need at this moment and we don't need much. If ICO succeeds we would certainly need a bigger place for the design team. We thought about that too, as we have a huge place just above the office.

When I asked for a copy of an ID of one of the team members, the reply was an email with an attachment: a copy of their passport. So yeah, that gives hope. It might still be a fake passport (one can order that rather easily I've been told), but I don't think so. Still, I felt some more digging was needed.


Let's start with their website...
* whois supremacy-online.com?
Code: [Select]
Contact Gmail: zlatko pesic
Registrant Name ZLATKO PESIC
City SKOFJA LOKA
Postal Code 004220
Country Slovenia

All looks good here.

* elementcoin.io
Code: [Select]
Domain Handle : DOM-231816
Domain Name : elementcoin.io
Domain Status : Live
First Registered : 2014-10-13
User ID : NIC-380128
Contact Name : Zlatko Pesic
Organization Name :
Street : Pod Plevno 22a
City : Skofja Loka

Registrar is German.
User ID : NIC-1087
Contact Name : BR
Organization Name : Key Systems GmbH
Street : Im Oberen Werk 1
City : St. Ingbert
State : .
Postal Code : DE-66386
Country: Germany
Phone : +49 (0) 68 94 - 93 96 850
Fax : +49 (0) 68 94 - 93 96 851
E-Mail : billing@key-systems.net

Well, again all good (but little warning: all domains are really brand new...)

* inovatium.com
Code: [Select]
Domain Name: INOVATIUM.COM
Registry Domain ID: 1860102718_DOMAIN_COM-VRSN
Updated Date: 2014-05-24 14:50:38Z
Creation Date: 2014-05-24 21:50:00Z
Registrar Registration Expiration Date: 2015-05-24 21:50:00Z
Registrant Name: ZLATKO PESIC
Registrant Organization:
Registrant Street: POD PLEVNO 22A
Registrant City: SKOFJA LOKA
Registrant State/Province: NA
Registrant Postal Code: 0004220
Registrant Country: SI
Registrant Phone: +386.040756942
Registrant Phone Ext:
Registrant Fax: +1.5555555555
Registrant Fax Ext:
Registrant Email: ZLATKO.PESIC@GMAIL.COM
Registry Admin ID:
Admin Name: ANTON KORDES
Admin Organization:
Admin Street: FRANKOVO NASELJE 151
Admin City: SKOFJA LOKA
Admin State/Province: NA
Admin Postal Code: 0004220
Admin Country: SI
Admin Phone: +386.070431159
Admin Phone Ext:
Admin Fax: +1.5555555555
Admin Fax Ext:
Admin Email: ANTON.KORDES@GMAIL.COM

Noticed how this domain is older? That's actually a good sign!! It means they have been working on all this since last May at least... Only launching websites for the new projects just recently, before posting their [ANN]. Also notice a second team member is mentioned, Anton. It's these little details that I always like :)

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All of our programmers have attended Faculty of computer and information science at the University of Ljubljana and have more than 10 years of C++ programming experience. All of them worked on many small unknown projects and few even did some work on Faculty graphics engine project. Not that we need a graphic engine, since we have UE4 for 19$ a month.

Whom are actually part of the team? Can we find out some more about them? From: http://elementcoin.io/#about
* ["TANJA ARSOV"]
At first glance, this looks like a solid lead. But when following up, all accounts associated with her seem to have been taken offline... Strange. Though I got confirmed this is her Facebook page.
* ["EMA GROZNIK"]
I found a gamer profile and indeed there is an article on the university where she studies (including here photo) (but I don't recognize her!). English version here. Not much I could find otherwise... Zlatko gave me this facebook page though.
* ["MATEJ STRASEK"]
Couldn't find anything definite, but got confirmed that this is his facebook page.
* ["ALES MICOVIC"]
Actually looks legit. Very few results in Google, but I found a Facebook account that looks real, though it is if someone whom likes to remain private (https://www.facebook.com/ales.micovic) - which is what to expect from a Linux fan ;) I got the following details from Zlatko:
"Aleš Mićović worked as a high school teacher until recently and was teaching computer programming (C, C++, PHP). He has a few years until retirement and does not use online social networks, only email."
* ["JERNEJ KOROSEC"]
Finally a public figure! Linked.in, not used for over 5 years (but later confirmed by Zlatko). Facebook, last entry just before launching Element Coin (May 2014). Fits the time-frame... No guarantees though. For example, I also found a Canadian with the same name (341 Durie St  Toronto ON M6S3G2). YouTube (idle for over a year) but I also found this YouTube account (no activity, different picture).
* ["CRT VAVROS"]
This linked.in account must be him (but no photos). Active for 2 years, fitting his job description. The only other reference I found was in this article, which leads to a French pdf, mentioning a Slovenian programmer. I did get this Facebook account form Zlatko.
* ["ANZE POLAJNAR"]
I found a Google Profile, no further information there. Only other information I could find was this profile, which fits the profile of a trader (PoloniEX = crypto exchange). His name is also referenced here (Dušan in Anže Polajnar), a page about mountain climbing. Google translate does not help with context.
* ["ANTON KORDES"]
This website shows an empty, fresh profile with programming languages filled in. I found this Google profile. I can't say I'm 100% sure this photo is of the same guy as on the website. So please, look for yourself. Other search results were rather general and I can not positively match him.
* ["ZLATKO PESIC"]
His official Linked.in account doesn't show much information but it's there :) I presume it's the correct one, despite that Pesic is a real generic name in Slovenia. I got these links from Zlatko himself: http://www.bizi.si/INOVATIUM-D-O-O/ and http://www.bizi.si/ZLATKO-PESIC-S-P/maticno-podjetje/
* ["JURE REPINC"]
Their latest addition to the team... No further information from me: Google results are clear :)

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I (Zlatko) have worked with Anton on Element for the last 8 months at least. We worked out every detail on how to do things easier, faster, more efficient, less costly and so on... Things can really be done better if you just put some thought and smart planning to the process. Of course if you have all the money you need you don't have to do that. It would be smart to do that anyway, but people rarely do that if they have the resources to do things as usual. We don't have that, but we have the knowledge how to do things right and the passion to enjoy working hard. If people support us we all win, if they don't, we move on. Simple as that.

So what can we conclude from all this? It still could be all an elaborate ruse with some fake profiles / generic names to mislead us all. The few details I could find fit within their story, though I have problems to recognize the people on the photos I found. That could be just me. 

All in all none of them seem to have been involved with big, public projects or companies. I think the team is made up of independent, freelancing individuals. Which fits the crypto scene just fine  8) And one would expect that if fake profiles were created for the Element project, one would have done a better job  >:D

Back to the FUD... Why did the Element team react so harsh on the valid to-the-point questions? They were hurt in their pride, that simple!
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Ok, maybe I was a little harsh at first but that was actually not my intension - excuses, excuses...
But I am such a naive and honest person, that I really don't get the bad world or the bad people. I mean I do get that -  but I don't. I expect that if I am a good person other people are too, but they are not. And I have to remind myself on that, although evidence of bad people is crushing the world every day. I hope that doesn't sound strange. :)

I can understand that people are scared with all the scams going on now, but you don't have to ruin other peoples dreams and hopes just because some bad person scamed you. And that was what he was doing. I would answer any question and any doubt, but cryptolemaiks comments were ment to hurt us and not to ask.

I will be totally honest with you, as you are being with me - I really wanted to answer him and at the same time to ANSWER HIM, and that is exactly what you have seen. My bad.

And how about their financial situation? What will be delivered when ICO does not turn out to be as great as it should? Well, let me just quote them...

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We were planing this for a long time and it was a hardworking process coming to this stage.

We are a small startup company, so obviously we don't have the funds to make the game on our own. But we have talented people around and also at least two teams of game developers that are willing to work for us. It is all about the funding.

But we also planed things with that in mind. We chose Unreal engine 4 as it is really easy to build upon it and we could not seriously be doing our own engine. As I wrote in the White paper - by choosing UE4 we have a great deal of our work already done!

And UE4 is 19$ a month - almost free!

We are preparing a game trailer as we speak and it should be done sometime next week. We will also be posting a video tomorrow, just to prove that we really do mean every word we wrote and that we are not scammers as hard as that could be to believe these days...

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If we only get a few BTC the project would be over. Not definitely as we would probably say it is postponed, but yes, it would effectively be over. We have a few other projects in plan also, and if any of those are successful we would try again.

Backup plan actually does exist. We calculated that at the current BTC market price, we would have to raise between 800 to 1000 BTC to be able to complete the game. If we raise only half of that, the backup plan is to make a demo game and present the project on Kickstarer. We calculated that with a team of around 30 people game could be finished in 6 to 8 months so a demo game could be done in 2 to 3 months with 400 to 500 hundred BTC. On the other hand if BTC price should go up, we would not need that much BTC.

As far as alternate timeframe is concerned, with more money everything can usually be done faster and with lesser delays, but things can always get more complicated. In that case, we are 99% sure the game would be finished in 12 months tops.

We plan to make game development as public as possible and to involve the gaming community into the whole process. That means that our developers and designers would have each their own blog where they would keep community updated on the current progress of their work. There is also a forum planned, where people could debate the individual work depicted in any of the blogs. That way we could constantly keep people excited and up to date and also see their reaction as the game is made. A perfect example of that is current development of the Unreal Tournament game where people, for instance, actually help coders to remove bugs from their code. We learn from the best.

Which led me to the following question: Ok, let's assume you only get a few btc and that game plans are unreachable for the next year. What will happen then? You still have the coin, will you keep working on multimining?
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No point in having just another coin. There are countless coins out there with no use.

We finish Element coin project and return BTC to the few investors.

My follow up question: So, will you have an Escrow then? People really feel safe with it!
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Escrow? Would it really help? Has it really prevented any scams? If it would really help, we might consider it. (more edits still to come)





As you can see, the financial structure is well thought out though there is a caveat: while low investments yield high returns for investors (initial price gets determined by total btc invested) it also means the ICO is open to abuse and manipulation. In the last few minutes somebody can put up a lot of btc and become the ultimate bag holder. This person could even be the Element team, artificially blowing up the price. There is NO real solution against manipulation like this, unless there is a fixed, well-thought out price offering.




Element tries real hard to prevent bag-holding. Mining is kept under control by limiting a max hash rate per IP address. While not 100% fool proof this is an interesting feature, one I actually thought of while thinking about my (theoretical) coin:) The idea is that only 1 block matures each day which equals to 8000 ELM/day - making it a rare coin in circulation. This should also add to the coins value (it's not easy to get a lot of them).


The last thing we did not talk about yet is the Online Shop. It won't be anything big or over-ambitious. Use Element Coin to buy games, online game codes or servers etc. The shop needs the game to offer anything substantial.  While nothing fancy it *will* bring value once the game is there.

FINAL VERDICT?
What do I think? Well, I still have Christian Summers fresh in my mind. While that, in the end, turned out fine me and many others have become extremely wary of new ICOs. New coin launches are slowing down because the market is getting over-saturated. That's why this whole project starts and stops with the Game and hence on the total amount of BTC collected with the IPO.

I think it's a smart move to let others build the game universe. Start with a template, make it nice and good looking and start rewarding developers for the designs and planets they bring in. When your computer is idle, mining starts. Gotta love that: free employees! Free resources! And you create a fanbase community that gets rewarded for involvement and donating resources. Maintenance (running costs) will be reasonable: only the server hosting will cost serious money to keep up with performance. Luckily, the Unreal engine is cheap to rent. Which could also be a disadvantage; many others will build their games on the same engine with the same technologie. So you'll really have to find added value: the theme of the game, the universe and characters it has. And professional support (forum, email, twitter). In other words: the Element Project stands or fails with the game world they build. If you think that will stand out and be unique while appealing to a large group of people, than you should invest. I don't think they are here to scam anybody. If you don't like faceless developers, this video will get you started. I've requested another video showing us some more... If that turns out well, I'd actually consider investing 1 BTC easily or even more so I could get one of the exclusive Pre-BETA tickets (currently left: 127/128). These tickets will be issued as in-wallet tradable assets. And remember: if the ICO is a bust, there will be a refund to the investors.

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INVESTOR RIGHTS
Investors with minimum 1 BTC initial investment are considered Element Group members. Element Group members are divided into three groups and gain different rights according to the respectable group they belong to. Detailed explanation about different groups inside Element group can be found in the White paper.

We assume 100% risk against theft of the BTC crowdfunds. Should our funds be stolen, we will still honor all Element coin sales.

Last fact to take away the  scam-vibe... I'm in contact with an extremely good developer who has done a lot of background work on many well known cryptos out there. He prefers to stay anonymous so I bring coin developers in need of emergency coding in contact with him. When he heard I was going to promote Element Coin, he was glad about it. Why? He's been talking with Element team for quite a long time now. They got introduced to each other through another contact of mine, @Ferengicoin. Ferengicoin and Element Team could not come to an agreement and since then so much time has passed, it looks like my Secret Coder is going to do some work for Element after all... Why this is interesting for you? It means Element Team quietly have been working on this project for quite some time already. They didn't just put some ideas together and made nice graphs for the [ANN]. No, they are hard at work, reaching out and building a team of interested quality professionals. All they need now is bitcoin. A lot of it! :)











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Re: ICO #SCAM analysis. #RT! $ELM @ElementCoin: whitepaper
« Reply #1 on: 06. November 2014., 23:01:35 »
A quick copy paste of the Whitepaper PDF http://inovatium.com/upl/ElementCoin-WhitePaper.pdf

White paper

~ No point designing a coin if people have no real way of using it. ~

A game (changing:) currency

Investors today can buy or mine many kinds of coins, but not many are really worth
having or mining. This abundance of coins is fine to a certain degree, as there is
more competition and people have more choice, but it’s also the abundance that
can choke many promising ideas. There is, however, one other abundance that we
would all rather have - an abundance of users. Currency can only be valuable if
people use it, and the more people use it, the more valuable it will be - to users and
in its own value, also.

It is also not in their favor that all the power is in the hands of the developers.
People don’t like to be left at the mercy of developers and this is why we decided to
change the game a little and even out the odds somewhat. Developers should not
have all the power, since without the investors, they would not be developing much
in the first place.

The essential question every developer should ask himself is “what will the coin be
used for?” If you don’t know the answer, you have probably failed. Developers should know what an average person will be able to do with their
currency. That should be something an average person sees as both easily done and
useful, as otherwise very few will invest. Why would you buy or mine a coin if you
don’t have any real use for it? If you own any coin you want to make profit or spend
it, and with most alternative coins you can usually do neither.
All that got us thinking. How do we make a currency that has many users, is in daily
use, and not just on the exchange markets, for that matter? Most of the alternative
coins today try to attract people to start using them by offering something else or
more, but that is not how things should be done. People really don’t need another
currency as there are plenty of them out there. What is needed though, is
something people could use their currency for and use it often.
That’s why we have started on a mission to provide a real value to our coin. We
wanted to have a coin with a real purpose, and to give people a platform where they
could use that coin. As one of the projects we were already planning was an online
game where some in-game currency would be needed, the solution was obvious.
We decided to combine both, our future online game and a coin, and to bring
together gamers and crypto-currency. This way we can give people a reason to want,
to have and to buy our coin and in the process gather the funds to develop all the
planned projects. We named the coin Element.


Supremacy Online

Through the planning of the whole process, we eventually designed a kind of
ecosystem where crypto-currency is the blood flow connecting all the parts together.
The biggest part of that ecosystem is going to be our online game called
SUPREMACY ONLINE, where people could make and spend Element coins inside the
game. Another part of our ecosystem will be an online shop, where people could
also use our coins. They could also opt to exchange them on the market or just
simply hold onto them, as that can make them money too.

Since we were already designing a coin to be used in a game, we thought of making
one that suited the gamers. Gamers usually own computers with one or two graphic
cards, so we decided to use that to both their and our advantage. When you think
about hundreds of thousands of computers being idle for most of the time, that is a
lot of hashing power staying unused. We figured we could harvest some of that power for mining, and in return pay the gamers back with our coins, an elemental part of the ecosystem we are designing.

In essence, what we’re trying to do with our coin is introduce a currency we would
use in our online game and one exchangeable on the crypto-market at the same
time.


Fair distribution

The concept of “fair distribution” is just another step on our journey of trying to do
things rationally and not just differently from the other coins. Since we’re making
the Element a currency mainly meant for use in our game, some kind of fair
distribution of coins really should be in place. We have spent a lot of time trying to
find a solution for this and we did figure it out in the end; Element coins are going to
be premined, but (and that’s a huge BUT!) they are not going to be spendable at
once, but gradually over the next 27 years.


So how is this different from all the other premined coins?

Well, actually, it is very different. Regular premined coins can be dumped on the
market by developers while Element coins cannot, since they are limited by the
proof of maturity.

What that actually means, is that we have introduced a system of time-aligned
premined blocks. All the blocks are already solved, but 24 hours has to pass for each
block to mature. That way the last block will only mature in ~27 years. As the block
matures, the block reward of 8000 coins is sent to our wallet where it becomes
spendable. At the end of the day, the pool will divide those coins among the miners
wallets according to how much their hashing power contributed to our mining pool.
But how do you get to own Element coins, then?

We are organizing an Initial Crowd-funding Offering where we make 18 million
Element coins available to all the potential investors. 500,000 Elements will be
additionally placed in the Development fund for the game launch. Coins will have no
predetermined initial price. The price will only be determined upon the end of the
ICO by dividing Bitcoin value between the initial batch of coins offered for sale.
After the ICO ends, you would have to buy Element coins on the market, or you could earn them by joining our mining pool and renting us your hashing power.


Why would someone invest early?
There will be a Bonus fund with 1.5 million Element coins which will be divided
among early buyers. Starting on November 4th and including November 5
th a bonus of 20 % is going to be added to every investment on those two days. After that a
bonus will decrease by 1 % every day until the end of the ICO. Bonus will be
calculated until there are no Elements in the Bonus fund left. If there should be any
coins left after the ICO, we will destroy them.

And how does fair distribution fit into that?
We are going to ensure fair distribution of our coins by limiting the hashing power to
a combined power of the two most powerful GPUs on the market with a 20%
overhead. By doing that, we effectively limit large-scale mining in our mining pool
and prevent someone from getting paid an unfairly large amount of Element coins.
That also motivates miners, since they know that in our pool nobody can mine much
more than they do and every block of coins gets evenly divided between all the
miners according to their submitted share of hashing power.


The mining pool
Usually if you mine with only one or two graphic processor units, it is almost
impossible to make any profit. On the other hand, if you combine the hashing power
of hundreds or even thousands of GPUs in a pool, that changes everything.
We are going to use that combined hashing power in our pool to mine other chosen
coins and pay you back in Element coins. What other coins those are depends on
the market. One day one coin could be mined and tomorrow the next one, but
profits will always be paid out in Bitcoins.

The pool will be built from servers designated to mine different coins. When chosen
coin that was mined gains some value, we will consider selling it. Dumping is not our
priority as we seek to earn in the long run. All the coins chosen will be kept in our
portfolio and all the mining data in our database will be available for review to all
the members of the “Element group”.Profit that we make from selling mined coins would be held in portfolio, divided
monthly and paid out in Bitcoins:
 5% goes to Stability fund
 20% goes to miners (additionally to already paid amount in Element coins
for renting us hashing power).
 25% goes to Element group members.
 50% goes to Development fund.


Element group

It was mentioned before that even just holding on to the Elements can make you
profit, and the possible rise of market value of the coin is not what we meant.
All the ICO investors who invest at least 1 Bitcoin will become “Element group”
members and will have access to the stats of mined coins and shop business.

Element group will have three levels, depending on the investment:
I. Class members with 5 BTC minimum investment will be entitled to:
 Their share of 25% portfolio profits, made from selling other mined
currencies in our mining pool.
 Their share of 20% game profits.
 50% of all online shop profit.
 They will also have voting rights to suggest which new coins should be
considered for mining in our mining pool.

II. Class members with 3 BTC minimum investment will be entitled to:
 Their share of 25% portfolio profits, made from selling other mined
currencies in our mining pool.
 Their share of 20% game profits.

III. Class members with 1 BTC minimum investment will be entitled to:
 Their share of 25% portfolio profits, made from selling other mined
currencies in our mining pool.You can become a member of the Element group even after the ICO, but that could
prove to be difficult. When ICO ends, the price of the Element Coin will be
determined and we will know exactly, what percentage of the initial ICO was bought
with Bitcoin. If we multiply that percentage with the number of Bitcoins needed to
be in one of the classes, we would determine the required percentage to be a
member of one. So, to become an Element group member, you would have to own
twice that percentage of Element coins, but calculated in current market cap.

All the calculations are done monthly. You get your share of the benefits depending
on the number of the days that you were at or above the required minimum market
share. All the statistics will be available monthly on http://group.elementcoin.io.
The crucial point is that Element group members will benefit greatly from their
membership. According to the class of the membership they are in, they will get
their share from the income our ecosystem earns every step of the way. If you
happen to be an “Element group” member and miner also, you effectively get your
share of the 45% of the profit made in Portfolio, paid out in Bitcoins!


Making money in SUPREMACY ONLINE

SUPREMACY ONLINE will not be just another futuristic online game, but one where
you’ll be able to use the Element as a game currency, and also contribute to the
supremacy of the game (pun intended).

We are not expecting gamers to only spend in a game, but also to make money.
Individuals or groups will be able to contribute to the game by creating worlds
(complete with flora, animals, alien creatures...), characters, weapons, vehicles,
machinery, clothes and a number of other goods or items people need, want or like
in a game. After we review and approve certain addition to the game, that addition
will be offered for purchase within the game so people could make money from
sales of their contributions.

Even if you don’t have the skills to do that yourself, you could always pay someone
to design a weapon or anything else for you or your corporation and then offer that
for sale in game. You’ll also be able to invest in different corporations by purchasing their shares and then get percentages from the sales of their items. You’ll be able to do this either as a player within the game, or even if you don’t play and just want to
be an investor. Using in game market/exchange, you’ll get to see the shares available
from corporations or different groups within the game and their respectable
transactions. If you like what you see, you’ll be able to purchase the shares and
become an investor.

There will be many parallel worlds in game, where you might be allowed to steal,
cheat, extort money, own slaves, sell weapons or do any number of the things the
designers of the parallel worlds could think of. Gradually, we’ll add more and more
complexity to the game and people will have even more opportunities to earn
money with additions like races, tournaments, gladiator fights, casinos, betting and
so on, all depending on the imagination of the contributing players and designers.
That means it will also be possible to earn something just by playing the game.
People will be able to use Elements to purchase various things in the game and to
pay for anything that has something to do with the game. They could purchase a
laser gun, buy a property, house, vehicle, clone themselves or just get one of the
million things available in the game.

It will also be possible to use coins for market trading, exchange them for other
currencies or just hold on to them, as the whole project is designed in a way that
even just owning the currency can make you some profit too.


Online shop

As a gamer, you play all sorts of games on your computer and also online. That’s why
in addition to a game, we are also going to introduce an online shop, where you’ll be
able to use Element coins for various goods and services. Nothing big, really; you
could buy a game, pay for online game codes, rent game servers, etc., or maybe get
some limited edition items with Supremacy Online or Element coin insignia. Just
another way of making sure people really find the coin useful.

When you make a purchase at our shop and pay with Element coins, we will buy
those Elements back and then use them in our Supremacy Online game, where they
would be available for players to purchase and use in the game.Stability fund
Stability fund is, like its name implies, used for stabilization of the currency.
5% of the ICO goes straight to Stability fund and after that, it is additionally funded
with 5% income from the portfolio profits.


Element coin mining

We use desktop application called ElementMiner for coin mining, which is a
GPU/CPU miner GUI. It is programmed to connect to our Work distribution server
and to switch mining algorithm on the fly. It also displays data about CPU/GPU
temperature, fan speed, submitted shares, etc.

It has controls to change mining settings and can work in full screen as a screen
saver when your computer is idle and you are not using it.
The application receives a command from the server (ip:port:algo), selects the
correct algorithm, connects to designated ip:port and starts mining the coin. Your
accepted shares get written into the database. We calculate your share once per day,
convert that to Elements and send coins to your wallet.

When your computer goes idle, the application starts mining and when you start
using your computer, mining stops. Everything is done automatically and you need
never intervene.

Work Distribution Server
Server that constantly monitors how our mining poll works.
Examples:
 When server detects that pool hash power is closing to Coin A at a 51% of
network hash rate, it redirects some of the connected ElementMiners to other
coins and/or pools.
 When Coin A is on the market and is not profitable at that time, the server
switches to Coin B or redirects the miner to another pool.
 If we have been mining some coin that was recently released to the market
and the total of the coins we have mined reaches a targeted amount, the
server switches to other coin and/or pool.

Specifications:
 Total coins: 100,000,000 ELM + POS
 Initial supply: 20,000,000 ELM (ICO)
 Daily inflation: 8000 ELM
 Block reward: 8000 ELM
 POS: 1% per year
 100% premine with blocks that mature gradually
 1 block matures every 86400 sec. and only then becomes spendable
 last block matures in ~27 years
 Every day 1 block matures; 8000 ELM become spendable
 All 8000 ELM are distributed among miners at our mining pool

Element coins cannot be mined but they can be earned in our mining pool by
renting us your hashing power. Be aware: Max hash rate we accept is 2x top GPU on
the market + 20%.
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From the bitcoin talk announcement... I posted the following:

This looks like a scam for me. I don't believe the video, the about me, or the "company".

Well... They just invented a new kind of ID Proof... On a new level I might add...

I quote Zlatko:
"One of my brothers is Milan Pesic and he plays football semi-professionally (soccer to Americans)"

I got some photos with Zlatko & his kids with Milan. Not real proof of course (could be fan promo photos), but I don't think so. We've got ID, social profiles, addresses, registered corporations, ... I think we can safely get past the "are you real" questions at this point. They are real. It's too elaborate not to be. And we have the Proof of Identity video where we can see Zlatko talk about the ideas and plans.

I'm still trying to convince Zlatko to also offer an Escrow (without discount - Escrows cost). I hope he makes a definite decision soon... And remember; while no official structure in place, when the ICO fails to gather enough money there will be a refund. So while there are no refunds on an individual basis, there is a general refund when the game ("Supremacy Online") will not be started yet.

If there is enough money to just create the coin (which has some unique features), the coin will *not* be made and an ICO refund will still take place. Zlatko sees no point in "just" another altcoin, though Elementcoin would have some unique features to keep mining fair for everybody, not just the big riggs. Ultimately, Elementcoin is an *addition* to Supremacy Online. Only then Element would gain real value (again, according to Zlatko).

For now, your ICO investment would go to the plans to build this all. They have been working for a long time on this (my secret developer has been in contact with them for a few months now, *not* through me but through another contact of mine). If you think an online game, built on Unreal, with Crypto in mind and smart anti-dump and value adding features (trading, selling self-created in-game objects) which might gather its own economy (designers, modelers, gamers) is a good idea, then you should invest. And you should invest serious amounts. You are not buying some coins, you are investing in a serious project on a scale like that of Syscoin (yes I know ;p).

In return Elelement team will use all the contacts it has gathered to create the vision *they* have in mind. The game can start with 1 planet: community can build the rest (in return for crypto). They studied, investigated and know what is needed. What kind of programmers they should hire, whom to hire. Preparing a serious business takes a serious amount of time and effort. So yes, there is no wallet yet nor a game nor fancy graphics - only a grand vision and detailed plans for something fun and new. THAT is what you will invest your money in. If no game can be build, BTC will be returned. We know their name, we have their number ;p

Peace!

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First @elementcoin wallet is out! 2 days of ICO left $ELM
« Reply #3 on: 23. November 2014., 22:07:30 »
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